I don't think there's anything wrong with forwarding this part of the
conversation. I only suggested sending to the non-devel list because the
audience of users is greater than the devel list.
I can't say I share the love of web-based fora... they're great for
searching via google (which you can do with mailing list archives) but the
hassle of creating an account for every little project I'm involved with
is a non-starter.
Note, though, that you should be able to post to the various pike lists
through nabble.
http://www.nabble.com/Pike-f14136.html (Pike)
http://www.nabble.com/Pike---Dev-f14138.html (Pike-devel)
Bill
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, <creatorbri[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess this was intended for the regular pike list so I'm forwarding
> it. If this is bad etiquette please forgive me, I have little experience
> with mailing lists. I don't know why you folks can't use an online forum
> like the rest of the modern world ;) all joking aside though, mailing
> lists are a huge turn off to new potential recruits to the Pike cause!
>
> Brian Lacy
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> From: <creatorbri[at]gmail.com>
> To: H. William Welliver III
> Subject: Re: Anyone out there?
>
> Thanks for the responses thus far.
>
> You bring up a critical subject: that of the target audience for pike.
> I agree that ruby and python devs are a tough crowd. I wonder if Java
> devs are any better. There's not much language agnosticism in any of
> these groups from what I've seen. At the risk of being discredited
> completely by showing an obvious bias, I'd like to suggest an
> alternative: Web Developers, and specifically PHP Devs.
>
> I sense a few eye rolls. I realize the whole Apache discussion is a
> mine field so I wanna take a step back. Think instead about what this
> bunch is all about. We have to use half a dozen tools to get anything
> done, and we're always looking something better because, as much as we
> love PHP, we realize that it sucks. The syntax of pike, irrelevant
> perhaps to the CS purists, offers a more organized and logical alt. The
> biggest hurdle is making it accessible, because we're also some of the
> laziest coders you'll find. I'm not saying 'mod_pike'. I'm saying we
> just want it simple.
>
> Finally, keep in mind that although lazy, we are highly adaptive and
> tend to latch onto something new quite easily. We're also an exciteable
> bunch. If pike ever got an upgrade that put it more readily in the hands
> of web devs, I think you'd find your ranks swelling uncontrollably.
>
> Just my cent-and-a-half.
>
> Brian
>
> PS - I am in Utah, USA. Germany is a long walk from my front door.
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